Lazycoder

17Dec/0440

Visio sucks

Microsoft Office Online: Visio 2003 Home Page

God MS Visio sucks. What’s all this crap about Layer and shape protection? It’s my friggin’ drawing, why can’t I add text to a shape?

  • http://www.odetocode.com/blogs/scott/ Scott Allen

    Perhaps Visio feels a sense of ownership with your diagram. :)

  • Joel

    I just got MS Visio Professional 2003 and man DOES IT SUCK!, what an absolute piece of SHIT this is..it won’t let me spell things the way I want to spell them, and my favorite thing is , everytime I try to draw a right angle, and then try to stretch it..it changes it into a straight line at 45 degrees instead of what I want it to do.
    so microsoft you SUCK!

  • binix

    visio,shit!

  • aaron

    ACENT 2 is way better

  • Matt

    Visio is horrible, I’m trying to make sequence diagrams. For some reason making an activation bar bigger causes all existing message arrows to swap positions into all kinds of stupid diagonals. It is so annoying. I hate Visio.

  • Kiko

    I got here after doing a google for “Visio sucks”

    Man, does the thought come to mind every 2 minutes while using this piece of crap at the office.

    Good thing at home I have OmniOutliner running on my mac…

  • Angry Robot

    I too just googled “Visio sucks” as I had to tale a break from this piece of crap software that wants to do all of my thinking for me while doing do with the brain of a hamster.

    Visio was always a little strange, but ever since M$ took it over, it has just become near unusable.

    I am sure if I could figure out how to turn the hamster brain off, it would be fine, but I shouldn’t have to dive so damn deep to make it just freaking stop doing things on its own!!!!!

    Gaaaaahhhhhh

  • http://www.digital-traffic.net Brian

    One more googling “Visio sucks”. Anyone ever try to use layers in this program? It’s ridiculously difficult; I give up. I’ll stick with Omnigraffle from now on.

  • Dirty Girl

    Seriously, has nobody found an alternative to Visio? How about a Visio alternative that saves a drawing as a single file instead of keeping all images separate?

  • KoBo

    I googled “Visio crap” and found this, glad I’m not alone. I try to delete one functional band and it deletes all the shapes, and would it be too much to ask for a grid that works? And what about the spelling or the myriad of properties that are completely impossible to understand?!

  • Chris

    Visio sucks, but so does every other drawing tool. The open office draw is just as bad, “Dia” is worse (doing something on multiple selected objects just affects one at random) – and what else is there?

  • gabi

    god you are so right. it really really really sucks. why choose visio when you can choose paint:)). at least paint lets you do everything the way you want it. and you don’t have to navigate through 100′s of menus that mean and do absolutely nothing to draw a f****ng line.

  • netbob

    If you are creating IT systems diagrams that are constantly changing, check out pathwaysystems dot com. Our IT department purchased their Relations product to replace the need for Visio.

  • Darth Snowshoe

    Visio sucks profoundly, transcendentally, numinously. When all of modern civilization is gone, buried under the mountainous enfolding dust of untold intervening ages, when not even the memory of our time is whispered among the strange, later-day (cockroach) inhabitants of this planet, only the suckiness of Visio shall remain.

    Did I mention, I just want to draw a line, witout any arrows or connectors or little dealyboppers on the ends?

  • Thomas

    Fuck hell this crap program is annoying. A simple flowchart takes for ever to build and is not at all dynamic and open for changes.
    Please microsoft, spend some time on tuning your products! And maybe send them to someone that can tip you off on the suckiness before you ship them!

  • Daniel Bowne

    Yes, Visio does suck….. Let me put shit where i want it….when I put it there its because that’s where I wanted it to be. So take your fucking shit AI and leave my shit alone. MS shitty coding at its finest.

  • Panguliaq

    I bought MS Visio to upgrade to my new computer. figure I would pay them and be honest. I GOT MS VISIO BASIC by mistake!!

    I cannot return it.

    $285 bucks for fckng squares, rectangles and triangles in colors to do flow diagrams. I will never buy a MS product again as long as I live whenever possible.

  • zombywoof

    The more I use it the more I hate it. If it was a spanner (wrench) or something physical in my garage I would have thrown it through the window. You know that marketing blurb ‘does what it says on the tin’?…
    Well; Visio ‘Does everything except what it says on the tin’.
    And differently everytime. Just when you think you MAY just have got a handle on how to work around one of its many idiosyncracies – it goes and does something different.
    Enough to make me go and google ‘Why is Visio so shit’.

    Anyone got any suggestions for more usable network diagramming tools?

  • Peterc34

    All I want to do is JOIN a few lines together into a closed shape and then fill it with a color. I had some early successes but now I have an L-shaped table that WILL NOT FILL!!!!!! Damn Visio! If you highlight the entire shape and click JOIN it should friggin’ JOIN!!!

    Adobe Illustrator allows slecting the two endpoint together and joining, so why not Visio? Maybe because Microsoft still can’t even put readable fonts on their 15yr old CALCULATOR app! Arrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!

  • Nick

    Visio qualifies easily for the TOP 10 of worst tools of all ages.

  • Lucio

    One more google search for ‘visio is shit’. I can’t believe how can a tool make a simple work so harder.

    All I want is to convert a serie o excel rows into shapes, and connect them by matching two columns. It took me already two hours of research, and nothing is done.

    I started using it today, and I’m dropping it today. Less than 3 hour to figure out this is complete shit.

  • David

    I’ve done sequence diagrams 1000+ times and never seen this error before… Visio sucks!

    “A package may only own or reference packages, subsystems, classifiers, associations, generalizations, dependencies, constraints, collaborations, messages and stereotypes.”

  • argh

    FUCK VISIO

  • Isan

    googled “visio is crap”

    none of the damn pogram makes sense: it doesnt conform to any standards out there, even the simple ones like holding control and clicking to remove a single item from a selection.

    And why does the undo buffer remember camera movements and zooms, but not selection and de-selections???

  • gertje

    Ohw yes this site makes my day, I’m not the only one
    who’s wasting his time with visio 200*, I don’t know what’s worse the bp oil disaster or visio
    please vote….

  • DM

    Haha another “Visio sucks” googler. Why does it do so many things without me asking it to?

  • http://www.kublogger.com/ kublogger

    haha yet another “visio sucks” googler chancing upon this thread. i totally hate it man. why can’t people just stick to drawing their flowcharts in Excel or Powerpoint. these other options are so much more flexible!

  • Doive

    Yet another ‘Why is Visio a festering pile of toss’ searchers here. Forced to use it by our engineering department as a ‘design tool’….BWAHAHAHAHAaaa. What a sack of utter piss it is. I’ve come from using AutoCAD for all my design drawings, which would normally go like this.

    Line
    Snap
    Radius
    Fillet
    Arc
    Fill
    Scale
    Copy
    Move
    Save

    Job done, and that took five minutes, and gives a professional result. In Visio to even get two lines snapped together, means zooming in to 800% and painstakingly moving them closer…. closer…. clooooser…. SNAP to somewhere miles away. GRRRRRRRR. I HATE it with an utter passion, it wastes hours of my time in producing half-arsed and tacky looking drawings, which are of no use whatsoever as design drawings – they aren’t accurate, to scale, dimensionable or anything – how can you prototype from them?? Draw to scale in CAD, and it’s simple and easy to produce production drawings from the components. Why oh why do we waste our time with such banal and infuriating tripe??

    IT’S NOT AN ENGINEERING PROGRAM!! It’s designed for ten year olds to doodle on… isn’t it?? Surely Microsoft aren’t seriously peddling this as a real drawing package…

  • vishi

    I find myself annoyed by certain quirks of Visio, but I don’t think it is quite as a bad as being made out. I think it is impossible for software to be both powerful, generic and trivially easy to learn.

    If it was easy to create a drawing tool for everyone, it would exist and you would all be using it.

    A lot of the complaints here can be mitigated by learning the tool and configuring it correctly. But that requires more concentration and effort than complaining.

    • gedavis

      @Vishi
      “I think it is impossible for software to be both powerful, generic and trivially easy to learn…
      ..A lot of the complaints here can be mitigated by learning the tool and configuring it correctly. But that requires more concentration and effort than complaining.”

      So If I have to take the time to LEARN the tool and I have to configure it myself correctly, Why wouldn’t I just learn a REAL drawing tool. I HAVE learned and used somewhere around 20 CAD/drawing tools and VISIO TRULY the hardest to get a drawing to work right.

      VISIO, by your definition then is not powerful, generic, or trivial. Couldn’t they at least be one of them?

    • warren

       Vashi:
       Actually, if you had the pleasure of using the original visio and the initial upgrade from Microsoft when they bought Visio out, you would see how intuitive and simple it was to use. I could train someone who has no familiarity with drawing tools in less than 15 minutes and have them doing useful work for me. The contrast to Visio 2010′s dis-functional human interface in the “intuitive use department” compared to older versions is a spectacular failure.

  • Nick

    Googled ‘Visio sucks’.

    Ah, let us count the ways.

  • Jerry William

    This applies to Visio 2010, in the menu bar under “View” click “Visual Aids” in the lower right hand corner of its respective space, it presents you with a dialog box, then select/de-select those that you need/don’t need; if you de-select all it quits thinking for you.

  • AJR

    Yep, I googled ‘Microsoft Visio is Rubbish’

    It’s just no use

  • Warren Keller

    I am furious. I just bought Visio 2010 to upgrade from an old version. Spent $225 + tax from Office Depot which is going out of business so I can’t even return it.
    I installed it, opened it and BANG, COMPLETELY unintuitive! I am furious. What the HE!! is wrong with Microsoft!!!!!!! FIRE the developers. They have absolutely no concept of good design principles. I am completely besides myself and livid.
    God help us all if Microsoft starts building cars – steering wheel on the left, bakes on the right. passenger seats hidden in the trunk …
    Frig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • goat curry

    Love this page. Yes I agree Visio sucks. Wish I could make an official page and let MS know. But they already know and they don’t care. Shape Sheets jfc…who wants to use these “features”?

  • BrianR

    You think that’s bad – try drawing a simple straight line in V2010.  To say that this program sucks demeans oral sex.

    And I would say to those who say “Oh, it’s not that bad, all you have to do is learn the tool”  B.S.  I have used Visio since before MS bought them. I have suffered through each “improvement.” But none has been as bad as the move to 2010.  Their lame attempt to “standardize” the tool structure has made it, for me, totally unusable.  What I want to do is draw a straight line.  Nothing complex, a series of straight lines so that I can communicate the information that I want to. No connectors, no complex links, just a series of straight lines drawing with more precision that is available with a really dumb tool such as Power Point.

    To make it worse I’m working at home, on a Saturday, trying to get work done for a meeting on Monday, and I’m spending a couple of hours trying to figure out how to draw – a straight line. And to make to make it worse, I have 2007 at work so I will need to “unlearn” on Monday.

    The whole UI is a POS.

    • BruceR

      I FULLY agree. Is Micro$oft ever going to listen to the people that pay thru the no$e to use their products (instead of using us as free beta test dummies).
      Heres my email I sent to downgrade from Visio 2010 – concurs with BrianR!

      (Sent to our IT guru/ Software instraller):
      “Sorry to be a pain, but is there any way I could have Visio
      2010 uninstalled and 2007 installed instead?

       

      Visio has been thru ups and downs with diff versions, and
      this latest is definitely a DOWN.

      It was really a good package (if a little limited) in the
      years before Micro$oft bought it,

      then MS tried to make it all things to all men (bad),

      then they tried to make it competition for AutoCAD, VBScript
      –eriffic, as well as all things to all men, and women (badder),

      then they lost a lot of that and got their focus back on
      making it a drawing tool, like… “duh”   (good),

      then they added meta data functionality and intelligence
      (Prof version) but kept it an intuitive drawing tool (Pretty good, that was 2007)

      now they appear to have rewritten MS Word into a clipart
      manipulation tool and called it Visio 2010  (sux)”

      my 2c worth…

  • Yeliab

    Why the f can’t I move where the label on a bi-drectional link goes? And why the bloody hell didn’t MS think that having overlapping text tags should be avoided. Fuck me it’s crappier than I every remember.

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