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By: Herding Code 94: Silverlight and HTML5

Herding Code 94: Silverlight and HTML5 — Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:51:54 +0000

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By: osman_sonic

osman_sonic — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:35:53 +0000

i want to build a website online shopping cart in silverlight for my final year project
what do think silverlight is best for me?

By: Dmitriy / ITAdapter

Dmitriy / ITAdapter — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:39:07 +0000

Microsoft is including SVG and HTML5 into IE9, along with Canvas and JIT-ed JavaScript. What this means is that ALL modern browsers will provide at least 90%+ of common features that would make Flash and Silverlight obsolete. YouTube has already started HTML5 “video” tag conversion and the process is unstoppable. Of course, Flash/SL have special “features” but really noone needs it for business applications, for shopping carts etc.. The future is definitely for HTML5/CSS3, JS, SVG. This platform is supported by VAST community on variety of platforms (how about running Silverlight of FreeBSD?) , so even Microsoft can not compete and that is why they are taking steps towards common standards like HTML5/CSS3. XAML will only survive on WPF/Windows-only applications, but future is after devices like smart phones, TVs (already they put YouTube and Skype in a TV) – it is obvious that the era of “fat computers” is over for mainstream user (not for developer/pro) and HTML delivers perfect rich platform for tablets, phones and PCs.
And I would not invest in Silverlight anyway these days – I’d rather use Flash because Flash IS ALREADY implemented everywhere whereas Silverlight is not and most likely will never be. What is the point of using Silverlight? That it is easier to develop is C#/XAMl than in ActionS – agreed, but decisions are not made based on programmers convenience.

By: Justin L

Justin L — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:40:11 +0000

building a GUI with table (now div) logic is like eating buttered peas with chopsticks: possible, but tedious and frustrating

we had so much more control over application development in 1995 with systems like delphi than we do now with w3′s broken concepts

the winning web platform is going to have to get certain things right:

it’s going to have to provide a statically typed language with performance that isn’t far off of C and C++

it’s going to have to provide a user interface system that is based on direct, simple, efficient logic that is readily accessible to programmers, with layperson layout schemes built on top of, rather than below the programmer’s view

in short, how many desktop applications could you rewrite on a given platform without having to noticeably degrade the interface or performance?

could you rewrite photoshop including its pixel buffer processing routines in javascript and pass it off for the real thing?

silverlight won’t necessarily emerge as the winner, but it gets certain things very right, where w3 has so far failed miserably and flash is somewhere in between

By: Stephen Makumbi

Stephen Makumbi — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:49:47 +0000

My biggest hurdle which I had to overcome during my first Silverlight apps was the fact that the entire app runs on the browser (unless you do some difficult wizardry). This means that all the objects in your app must first be loaded to clients browser, depending how heavy these are size-wise might mean the client may have to wait a long time, particularly more annoying on a slow internet line. This might discourage the user from return as often as they would have otherwise done.
As I say there are ways of overcoming this limitation by downloading in parts, I have not come across one solution that is not cumbersome. MS needs to address this problem with a more streamlined solution.

By: J.C.Ködel

J.C.Ködel — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:28:38 +0000

There is no application whatsoever without a dependency… Java requires de Java VM, .net the .net framework, even C++ requires sometimes it’s runtime, depending how the program was built.

Also, web applications still requires a major plugin to run: the web browser itself. Who among us never had problems with a application running well on FireFox and totally destroyed on IE 6? Some applications locks the user saying you NEED this specific version of IE or a major one, otherwise, you won’t run our app.

Thinking about this, what is more easy to do? Keep 4, 5 browsers for our application (in both side, since web apps must adapt itself for each browser), and keep the browsers updated on client’s machine, low security (with toolbars, activex and other things that could compromise security) or simply install a browser plug-in that will run the exactly same copy of app, no matter wich browser or OS is running?

If the plugin is a matter of concern for the IT admins, then those admins are WRONG… The computer world changes every second, and a good professional MUST be so up to date as it’s system, otherwise, him will fail, as much as his OS installation or its security will fail.

RIA is not the future of web APPLICATIONS, it is its present! HTML 5 is in the future, RIA, with Silverlight or Adobe Flex/Flash Builder is NOW.

There were some cases in my company that user’s won’t buy a Adobe Flex application. Same excuses: we will have to keep Flash Player up to date, there will be issues, we don’t know that, etc… As soon they see the application running, the phrase changed: “That’s AWSOME! We now want to make that, that and that application in this new technology!”

People don’t change (Copyright Gregory House, he he he), because they are AFRAID of… If nothing changes, their days are safe, because everything will work the way works now… But, without change, the world does not go on…

And, remember… unless you are programming in ANSI C without any kind of framework, you WILL BE DEPENDENT OF SOME TYPE OF VM/PlugIn/Library… That’s the way it works =)

By: Asif

Asif — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:46:10 +0000

I’d say that if silver light will be the essential part of Windows7 and one day IFF this will be provided to the every windows consumer shipped with windows then its not to compare with the Gears or FF Addons. Its really NOT that match then. I tell you that we can compare it with the FLASH in that case or Java Applets NOT with plugins and addons. Because a laymen doesn’t have accessible knowledge to reach the addons but they still watch Youtube. So if I develop something in the silver light I see my clients using right through the web page not through extra plugins.

Here the question is that How many of my clients have the Silver Light available on the Browser. And here is what Microsoft needs to do something with windows shipment and updates.

Thanks