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		<title>Comment on How we learn to write code by Tarah Adermann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarah Adermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been learning it like 4 years...but then again my life is more connected into helping a business &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esilverbullet.co&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grow online business&lt;/a&gt; and I&#039;m happy with it. Still, needs to learn more about the said category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been learning it like 4 years&#8230;but then again my life is more connected into helping a business <a href="http://www.esilverbullet.co" rel="nofollow">grow online business</a> and I&#8217;m happy with it. Still, needs to learn more about the said category.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How we learn to write code by Tarah Adermann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarah Adermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been learning it like 4 years...but then again my life is more connected into helping a business &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esilverbullet.co&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grow online business&lt;/a&gt; and I&#039;m happy with it. Still, needs to learn more about the said category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been learning it like 4 years&#8230;but then again my life is more connected into helping a business <a href="http://www.esilverbullet.co" rel="nofollow">grow online business</a> and I&#8217;m happy with it. Still, needs to learn more about the said category.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How we learn to write code by vmware training courses</title>
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		<dc:creator>vmware training courses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very good post that makes people wanted to read the
content. In fact, my friend was now aiming to learn programming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very good post that makes people wanted to read the<br />
content. In fact, my friend was now aiming to learn programming.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How we learn to write code by plumber edinburgh</title>
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		<dc:creator>plumber edinburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son wanted to learn programming. I will share this to him.
I hope this can help him into his study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son wanted to learn programming. I will share this to him.<br />
I hope this can help him into his study.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How we learn to write code by trafalgar geothermal</title>
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		<dc:creator>trafalgar geothermal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that was the main problem in learning programming on
how schools they can provide the quality services to the students. Mostly, they
(students) learned from their experience like on the job training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that was the main problem in learning programming on<br />
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(students) learned from their experience like on the job training.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How we learn to write code by Horse Medications</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horse Medications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting article that you show in here. Actually,
I would like to learn writing code. Thank you for sharing a little bit idea
that you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting article that you show in here. Actually,<br />
I would like to learn writing code. Thank you for sharing a little bit idea<br />
that you have.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How we learn to write code by Chris Ammerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Ammerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the internship idea...
I can speak from experience as a developer who is both self-taught and college-educated that my internship throughout college was indispensible. Even though the management environment left much to be desired, I learned more on the job than in 4 years of classes, about programming, balancing user needs vs the maintenance and support needs of the project&#039;s future lifecycle, the importance of testing your own code, project management, business, and a hundred other things.

To their credit, the advisors at my college urged us VERY strongly to all get internships by our senior year. They explained frankly that not only would an internship be a crucial complement to our classroom education, but that it would dramatically improve our job prospects after school. I know it was so for me on both fronts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the internship idea&#8230;<br />
I can speak from experience as a developer who is both self-taught and college-educated that my internship throughout college was indispensible. Even though the management environment left much to be desired, I learned more on the job than in 4 years of classes, about programming, balancing user needs vs the maintenance and support needs of the project&#8217;s future lifecycle, the importance of testing your own code, project management, business, and a hundred other things.</p>
<p>To their credit, the advisors at my college urged us VERY strongly to all get internships by our senior year. They explained frankly that not only would an internship be a crucial complement to our classroom education, but that it would dramatically improve our job prospects after school. I know it was so for me on both fronts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How we learn to write code by D. Lambert</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can heap some of the blame for this on businesses that expect to hire kids straight out of college and put them to work on real projects with effectively no mentoring or guidance.  To some extent, this is also a by-product of a throw-away approach to software development, so if you build each application with the understanding that you&#039;re never going to maintain it over any significant period of time, then any code that has the outward appearance of getting the job done is as good as any other, and the cheaper the better.

Businesses don&#039;t perceive code bases as long-term assets, so there isn&#039;t a lot of effort put forth to create systems that are sustainable over a period of years.  This is due, in part, because many of the decision-makers don&#039;t understand how one chunk of code can be considered &quot;good&quot; and another &quot;bad&quot; if they appear to produce the same results -- even if they produce the same results most of the time.

I&#039;ve been in organizations that &quot;get it&quot;.  I don&#039;t believe this was ever ubiquitous, but I think it&#039;s becoming rarer as time goes by.  I think you can trace some of this back to education, but I really believe that the schools are giving businesses what they&#039;re asking for.  Maybe what we really need is some education for business school majors so they can begin to appreciate why they might be interested in code bases that don&#039;t collapse into a steaming pile as soon as someone sneezes on them.  I remember some finance classes where we discussed depreciation and accounting for computer systems, but nobody ever said &quot;boo&quot; about the idea that the quality of the code in the system had any kind of appreciable effect on the cost of maintenance for a system.

Maybe we&#039;re fighting this fight from the wrong end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can heap some of the blame for this on businesses that expect to hire kids straight out of college and put them to work on real projects with effectively no mentoring or guidance.  To some extent, this is also a by-product of a throw-away approach to software development, so if you build each application with the understanding that you&#8217;re never going to maintain it over any significant period of time, then any code that has the outward appearance of getting the job done is as good as any other, and the cheaper the better.</p>
<p>Businesses don&#8217;t perceive code bases as long-term assets, so there isn&#8217;t a lot of effort put forth to create systems that are sustainable over a period of years.  This is due, in part, because many of the decision-makers don&#8217;t understand how one chunk of code can be considered &#8220;good&#8221; and another &#8220;bad&#8221; if they appear to produce the same results &#8212; even if they produce the same results most of the time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in organizations that &#8220;get it&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t believe this was ever ubiquitous, but I think it&#8217;s becoming rarer as time goes by.  I think you can trace some of this back to education, but I really believe that the schools are giving businesses what they&#8217;re asking for.  Maybe what we really need is some education for business school majors so they can begin to appreciate why they might be interested in code bases that don&#8217;t collapse into a steaming pile as soon as someone sneezes on them.  I remember some finance classes where we discussed depreciation and accounting for computer systems, but nobody ever said &#8220;boo&#8221; about the idea that the quality of the code in the system had any kind of appreciable effect on the cost of maintenance for a system.</p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;re fighting this fight from the wrong end&#8230;</p>
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